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Witam, Mam nietypowy problem po remoncie silnika. Miałem robioną głowicę bo padł jeden cylinder. Głowica zrobiona, ciśnienie na wszystkich cylindrach idealne. Jednak po złożeniu w całość okazało się że auto nie odpala. Podpiąłem VAGa i co się okazało. Otóż jeżeli silnik jest zimny i jakimś cudem zaskoczy ( bo udaje się go odpalić raz na sto lat ) to wszystkie wtryski leją jak z wiadra. Stąd zapewne problem z odpaleniem bo jest zła mieszanka. Jednak wraz ze wzrostem temperatury silnika dawki powoli wracają do normy. Widać to ładnie w załączniku - po paru minutach wszystko jest ok. Jest jednak też druga przypadłość - po przekroczeniu ~1600 obrotów na minutę VAG nie jest w stanie odczytywać podawanych dawek, pokazuje ostatnie znane i tak to wszystko wisi. Dopiero gdy zdejmę nogę z gazu zaczyna pokazywać na nowo dawki. Wszystkie pozostałe grupy ( chociażby 23 - też od PD, czy np 18 ) wskazują dane w trybie ciągłym. Przed remontem silnika wtryski były ok. Dla pewności ten z zepsutego cylindra zawiozłem do sprawdzenia na maszynie - też okazało się że wtryskiwacz jest ok. Więc wtryski jako wtryski są w porządku - problem jest z dawkowaniem... Ale dlaczego ? Tu link do logu grupy 13stej : http://www.przeklej.pl/plik/013-xls-0027qf68l5a5

No to wlasnie jest Passat... Hm bede musial pojechac gdzies na podnosnik i posrpawdzac... gdzies wyczytalem ze ktos psikal plakiem na rury to bylo ladnie widac czy powietrze ucieka..

Hm a ktore miejsca sa najbardziej narazone na tego typu usterki? Czy raczej nie ma reguly i trzeba orac wszystko od praktycznie filtra powietrza po silnik ? Bo znowu rozbierac przod to tragedia... A drugie pytanie : Czy ten pompowtrysk nie powoduje takich objawow? Mi sie wydaje ze raczej nie bo gdyby szwankowal silnik albo by kiepsko pracowal albo mial problemy z odpalaniem a pracuje wzorcowo... Czy w takim wypadku pozostaje tylko ten dolot czy moze to byc rowniez cos innego ?

Na VAGu nie mam zadnych bledow w silniku ani nigdzie indziej. Moge ewentualnie zrobic logi dynamiczne i statyczne - wystarczy powiedziec ktore grupy...

Dolot sprawdzalem i nie stwierdzilem nieszczelnosci. Natomiast nie dam tu 100% gwarancji. Jakis magiczny sposob by to poprawnie zdiagnozowac?

Witam, Od jakiegos czasu autko zaczelo kopcic na czarno. Dzieje sie tak przy np wyprzedzaniu. I nie chodzi tu o chmurke i potem juz nic a kopcenie ciagle. Przeplywomierz byl wymieniany i jest sprawy. Turbina byla robiona i jest sprawna. Oleju nie bierze. Odpala odrazu niezaleznie czy jest zimny czy cieply. Spalanie wydaje mi sie rowniez w normie a jezeli wzroslo to jakos nieznacznie. Jedyne co mnie niepokoi to kwestia pompowtryskow. W grupie 013 na VAGu jest wszystko ok, norma to +-2,8 a u mnie wszystkie 4 spokojnie mieszcza sie w 0,5. Natomiast w grupie 023, w BIPach jeden z nich ma wartosc 60-70 na postoju. Pozostale max 17.... Zdejmowalem obudowe silnika by sprawdzic wtyczki do pompek i zauwazylem ze jedna z pompek jest inna niz pozostale. Tak jakby juz byla wymieniana. Na dodatek to ta daje nieprawidlowy wynik w BIPach.... Prosze o wypowiedz jakiegos znawcy czy ta pompka moze dawac taki objaw? Wiem ze ciezko to diagnozowac, przydalyby sie logi reszty itd... Ale na chwile obecna interesuje mnie jedynie ten wysoki BIP na 1 pompce. Czy tak wysoki bip bedzie dawal takie objawy? Bo poza tym nieszczesnym kopceniem auto nie ma zadnych innych objawow... ani nie szarpie, ma moc, olej w normie itd... Cholery idzie dostac ;/

Oto logi po wymianie przeplywki na nowa. Samochod odzyskal troche mocy ale wpada w mega turbo dziure. Zalaczam dynamiczne : Group A: '003 Engine speed MAF (specified) MAF (actual) EGR duty cycle TIME 861-945 240-340 240-340 4-84 Marker STAMP /min mg/str mg/str % 0.74 1554 850.0 420.0 4.8 1.82 1680 850.0 490.0 4.8 2.90 1848 850.0 585.0 4.8 4.00 2079 850.0 755.0 4.8 5.08 2331 850.0 810.0 4.8 6.20 2583 850.0 920.0 4.8 7.28 2856 850.0 915.0 4.8 8.38 3108 850.0 915.0 4.8 9.48 3360 850.0 855.0 4.8 10.56 3591 850.0 855.0 4.8 11.66 3822 850.0 835.0 4.8 12.74 4011 850.0 810.0 4.8 13.86 4200 850.0 810.0 4.8 14.94 4347 850.0 780.0 4.8 16.02 4473 850.0 740.0 4.8 Group B: '008 Engine speed Inj qty Inj qty Inj qty TIME ? ? ? STAMP /min mg/str mg/str mg/str 0.01 1470 21.4 38.2 18.4 1.10 1596 36.0 39.0 22.8 2.18 1743 45.4 39.8 24.6 3.29 1911 45.0 41.0 33.0 4.36 2142 44.8 41.0 38.0 5.44 2415 44.6 41.2 39.2 6.56 2688 44.2 41.2 42.0 7.64 2940 44.0 40.8 42.0 8.76 3192 43.8 40.4 41.0 9.84 3444 43.4 40.0 41.2 10.92 3654 43.2 39.6 40.4 12.02 3885 43.0 38.8 39.6 13.10 4074 42.8 38.4 38.4 14.22 4263 42.4 37.8 37.8 15.30 4389 42.2 34.6 36.2 Group C: '011 Engine speed Specified MAP Actual MAP Duty cycle TIME ? ? Regulator valve? STAMP /min mbar mbar % 0.38 1512 1611.6 1162.8 24.7 1.46 1638 1795.2 1275.0 25.1 2.54 1806 1876.8 1448.4 25.5 3.65 1995 1948.2 1734.0 38.6 4.72 2247 1948.2 1938.0 53.4 5.84 2499 1948.2 2070.6 63.4 6.92 2772 1948.2 2193.0 74.1 8.00 3024 1948.2 2233.8 83.3 9.12 3276 1948.2 2193.0 92.8 10.20 3507 1948.2 2182.8 94.4 11.28 3738 1948.2 2193.0 94.4 12.38 3948 1948.2 2193.0 94.4 13.48 4137 1927.8 2203.2 94.4 14.58 4305 1897.2 2223.6 94.4 15.66 4431 1846.2 2162.4 94.4 Group C: '010 Mass Air Flow Barometric Pressure Manifold Pressure Throttle TIME ? STAMP mg/str mbar mbar % 0.32 355.0 999.6 1101.6 62.4 1.41 445.0 999.6 1203.6 99.2 2.49 570.0 999.6 1336.2 100.0 3.57 715.0 999.6 1581.0 100.0 4.68 845.0 999.6 1887.0 100.0 5.76 925.0 999.6 2029.8 100.0 6.87 995.0 999.6 2121.6 100.0 7.96 995.0 999.6 2172.6 100.0 9.07 940.0 999.6 2142.0 100.0 10.14 925.0 999.6 2131.8 100.0 11.22 905.0 999.6 2142.0 100.0 12.33 890.0 999.6 2182.8 100.0 13.41 870.0 999.6 2182.8 100.0 14.49 850.0 999.6 2193.0 100.0 15.61 825.0 999.6 2213.4 100.0 16.69 785.0 999.6 2193.0 100.0 Generalnie raz auto przyspiesza normalnie a raz potrzebuje ponad 2600 obrotow zeby dostac swojego kopa. I nie ma zadnej reguly na to kiedy dziala dobrze a kiedy zle. Tak wyglada 011 gdy jest gorzej: Group A: '011 Engine speed Specified MAP Actual MAP Duty cycle TIME ? ? Regulator valve? Marker STAMP /min mbar mbar % 0.01 1470 1224.0 1091.4 32.7 0.36 1533 1642.2 1091.4 24.7 0.72 1575 1754.4 1091.4 24.7 1.09 1596 1785.0 1091.4 24.7 1.46 1638 1795.2 1091.4 25.1 1.82 1659 1805.4 1101.6 24.7 2.19 1701 1825.8 1101.6 24.7 2.55 1722 1836.0 1101.6 25.1 2.90 1764 1856.4 1111.8 24.7 3.26 1785 1866.6 1122.0 24.7 3.62 1827 1887.0 1122.0 24.7 3.98 1869 1917.6 1132.2 24.7 4.34 1911 1938.0 1142.4 24.7 4.70 1932 1948.2 1152.6 24.7 5.06 1974 1948.2 1162.8 25.1 5.41 1995 1948.2 1173.0 24.7 5.77 2037 1948.2 1193.4 25.1 6.12 2079 1948.2 1203.6 25.1 6.48 2121 1948.2 1213.8 25.1 6.84 2163 1948.2 1224.0 24.7 7.20 2184 1948.2 1234.2 25.1 7.56 2226 1948.2 1254.6 25.1 7.92 2268 1948.2 1264.8 25.1 8.27 2310 1948.2 1285.2 25.5 8.63 2352 1948.2 1305.6 24.7 8.99 2394 1948.2 1326.0 25.1 9.35 2436 1948.2 1356.6 25.1 9.71 2499 1948.2 1397.4 28.7 10.07 2541 1948.2 1428.0 29.5 10.42 2583 1948.2 1448.4 30.7 10.78 2625 1948.2 1479.0 31.1 11.14 2688 1948.2 1499.4 31.5 11.50 2730 1948.2 1540.2 32.7 11.86 2793 1948.2 1591.2 34.7 12.22 2856 1948.2 1713.6 41.8 12.58 2940 1948.2 1846.2 47.0 12.94 3024 1948.2 1968.6 51.4 13.30 3087 1948.2 2091.0 57.8 13.65 3171 1948.2 2162.4 61.0 14.01 3255 1948.2 2172.6 64.5 14.37 3339 1948.2 2182.8 67.7 14.73 3423 1948.2 2193.0 72.1 15.08 3486 1948.2 2213.4 74.9 15.44 3570 1948.2 2223.6 79.3 15.80 3654 1948.2 2233.8 82.9 16.16 3717 1948.2 2233.8 84.9 16.52 3780 1948.2 2244.0 88.5 16.89 3864 1948.2 2244.0 92.0 17.25 3927 1948.2 2244.0 94.0 17.61 3990 1948.2 2244.0 94.4 17.97 4053 1938.0 2254.2 94.4 18.32 4116 1927.8 2264.4 94.0 18.68 4179 1917.6 2264.4 94.4 19.03 4221 1917.6 2264.4 94.4 19.39 4284 1897.2 2264.4 94.4 19.75 4326 1887.0 2274.6 94.4 20.11 4368 1866.6 2254.2 94.4 20.47 4410 1846.2 2233.8 94.0 20.83 4452 1825.8 2213.4 94.4 21.19 4473 1815.6 2193.0 94.4 21.54 4515 1805.4 2131.8 93.6 21.91 4536 1785.0 2101.2 94.4 22.27 4557 1754.4 2060.4 93.6

Dzis bedzie nowa przeplywka, po jej zalozeniu wstawie te same grupy juz na dzialajacym przeplywomierzu. Oczywiscie mowimy o oryginalnym lmm a nie jakims badziewiu.

Witam, Moglbym prosic o analize logow ? Wiem ze wyraznie widac ze przeplywomierz umiera, ale czy cos dolega np N75? GRUPA 011 BS: Engine speed Specified MAP Actual MAP Duty cycle TIME ? ? Regulator valve? MARKER STAMP /min mbar % 0.01 861 ON 1009.8 0.0 0.36 861 ON 1009.8 0.0 0.72 861 ON 1020.0 0.0 1.09 861 ON 1020.0 0.0 1.44 861 ON 1020.0 0.0 1.83 861 ON 1030.2 0.0 2.21 861 ON 1030.2 0.0 2.57 861 ON 1030.2 0.0 2.93 861 ON 1030.2 0.0 3.29 861 ON 1030.2 0.0 3.65 861 ON 1030.2 0.0 4.01 861 ON 1030.2 0.0 4.36 861 ON 1030.2 0.0 4.72 861 ON 1030.2 0.0 5.08 861 ON 1030.2 0.0 5.44 861 ON 1030.2 0.0 5.80 861 ON 1030.2 0.0 6.16 861 ON 1030.2 0.0 6.51 861 ON 1030.2 0.0 6.87 861 ON 1030.2 0.0 7.23 861 ON 1030.2 0.0 7.59 861 ON 1030.2 0.0 7.95 861 ON 1030.2 0.0 8.31 861 ON 1030.2 0.0 8.67 861 ON 1030.2 0.0 9.06 861 ON 1030.2 0.0 9.40 861 OFF 1030.2 0.0 9.75 861 OFF 1020.0 99.6 10.12 861 OFF 1009.8 99.6 10.47 861 OFF 1009.8 99.6 10.83 861 OFF 1009.8 99.6 11.19 861 OFF 999.6 99.6 11.55 861 OFF 999.6 99.6 11.91 861 OFF 999.6 99.6 12.27 861 OFF 999.6 99.6 12.63 861 OFF 999.6 99.6 12.99 861 OFF 999.6 99.6 13.35 861 OFF 999.6 99.6 13.71 861 OFF 999.6 99.6 14.08 861 OFF 999.6 99.6 14.46 861 OFF 999.6 99.6 14.85 861 OFF 999.6 99.6 15.24 861 OFF 999.6 99.6 15.61 861 OFF 999.6 99.6 15.97 861 OFF 999.6 99.6 16.33 861 OFF 999.6 99.6 16.69 861 OFF 999.6 99.6 17.05 861 OFF 999.6 99.6 17.41 861 OFF 999.6 99.6 17.77 861 OFF 999.6 99.6 18.12 861 OFF 999.6 99.6 18.48 861 OFF 999.6 99.6 18.84 861 OFF 999.6 99.6 19.20 861 OFF 999.6 99.6 19.56 861 ON 999.6 99.6 19.92 861 ON 999.6 0.0 20.27 861 ON 1009.8 0.0 20.63 861 ON 1009.8 0.0 21.00 861 ON 1020.0 0.0 21.36 861 ON 1020.0 0.0 21.71 861 ON 1020.0 0.0 22.08 861 ON 1030.2 0.0 22.43 861 ON 1030.2 0.0 GRUPA 011 Dynamiczna: Engine speed Specified MAP Actual MAP Duty cycle TIME ? ? Regulator valve? MARKER STAMP /min mbar mbar % 0.01 1617 1009.8 1020.0 37.9 0.36 1617 1009.8 1020.0 37.5 0.72 1575 1009.8 1020.0 37.5 1.09 1533 1009.8 1020.0 37.1 1.45 1512 1009.8 1020.0 36.7 1.81 1491 1009.8 1020.0 36.7 2.17 1470 1009.8 1020.0 36.7 2.52 1533 1734.0 1020.0 24.7 2.88 1554 1764.6 1091.4 25.5 3.22 1617 1785.0 1173.0 25.5 3.58 1680 1815.6 1264.8 25.9 3.94 1743 1836.0 1336.2 25.9 4.30 1806 1876.8 1397.4 25.1 4.66 1869 1917.6 1458.6 24.7 5.02 1953 1948.2 1509.6 25.9 5.38 2016 1948.2 1550.4 29.1 5.74 2079 1948.2 1601.4 32.3 6.10 2142 1948.2 1652.4 35.9 6.45 2205 1948.2 1693.2 38.6 6.81 2268 1948.2 1734.0 41.0 7.17 2331 1948.2 1774.8 43.4 7.54 2394 1948.2 1815.6 46.2 7.89 2457 1948.2 1846.2 47.0 8.25 2520 1948.2 1876.8 49.4 8.61 2583 1948.2 1897.2 50.6 8.96 2625 1948.2 1907.4 50.6 9.32 2688 1948.2 1907.4 51.0 9.68 2751 1948.2 1917.6 51.4 10.04 2814 1948.2 1927.8 52.2 10.40 2877 1948.2 1938.0 53.0 10.76 2919 1948.2 1948.2 53.4 11.12 2982 1948.2 1968.6 55.0 11.49 3045 1948.2 1989.0 56.2 11.85 3087 1948.2 1999.2 57.0 12.22 3150 1948.2 2019.6 58.6 12.57 3213 1948.2 2040.0 59.4 12.93 3255 1948.2 2050.2 61.0 13.29 3318 1948.2 2050.2 62.6 13.65 3381 1948.2 2050.2 63.0 14.01 3423 1948.2 2060.4 64.1 14.37 3486 1948.2 2060.4 65.7 14.73 3528 1948.2 2070.6 67.3 15.09 3591 1948.2 2070.6 68.5 15.44 3633 1948.2 2070.6 69.7 15.80 3696 1948.2 2070.6 71.7 16.16 3738 1948.2 2070.6 72.5 16.52 3801 1948.2 2070.6 74.1 16.88 3843 1948.2 2080.8 76.1 17.23 3885 1948.2 2080.8 77.3 17.60 3948 1948.2 2070.6 78.1 17.96 3990 1948.2 2070.6 80.5 18.31 4032 1938.0 2070.6 82.1 18.67 4095 1938.0 2080.8 84.1 19.03 4137 1927.8 2080.8 85.3 Grupa 003 dynamiczna : Engine speed MAF (specified) MAF (actual) EGR duty cycle TIME 861-945 240-340 240-340 4-84 MARKER STAMP /min mg/R mg/R % 0.72 1764 850.0 550.0 4.8 1.80 1911 850.0 550.0 4.8 2.88 2079 850.0 550.0 4.8 3.96 2226 850.0 550.0 4.8 5.13 2394 850.0 550.0 4.8 6.28 2562 850.0 550.0 4.8 7.36 2688 850.0 550.0 4.8 8.44 2835 850.0 550.0 4.8 9.54 2961 850.0 550.0 4.8 10.62 3087 850.0 550.0 4.8 11.70 3213 850.0 550.0 4.8 12.80 3339 850.0 550.0 4.8 13.88 3444 850.0 550.0 4.8 14.96 3528 850.0 550.0 4.8 16.04 3612 850.0 550.0 4.8 17.14 3717 850.0 550.0 4.8 18.26 3801 850.0 550.0 4.8 19.34 3885 850.0 550.0 4.8 Grupa 008 dynamiczna : Engine speed Inj qty Inj qty Inj qty TIME ? ? ? STAMP /min mg/R mg/R mg/R 0.01 1638 37.4 39.2 27.6 1.08 1806 45.2 40.4 26.8 2.16 1974 45.0 41.0 26.4 3.24 2121 44.8 41.0 26.4 4.33 2289 44.6 41.0 26.2 5.53 2457 44.4 41.2 26.0 6.64 2604 44.4 41.2 26.0 7.72 2730 44.2 41.2 26.0 8.80 2877 44.0 41.0 26.0 9.90 3003 44.0 40.8 26.2 10.98 3129 43.8 40.6 26.4 12.06 3255 43.6 40.4 26.4 13.16 3360 43.6 40.2 26.6 14.24 3465 43.4 40.0 26.6 15.32 3570 43.4 39.8 26.4 16.40 3654 43.2 39.6 26.4 17.50 3738 43.2 39.4 26.4 18.62 3822 43.0 39.2 26.4 Grupa 010 dynamiczna : Mass Air Flow Barometric Pressure Manifold Pressure Throttle TIME ? STAMP mg/R mbar mbar % 0.36 550.0 1009.8 1305.6 100.0 1.44 550.0 1009.8 1468.8 100.0 2.52 550.0 1009.8 1591.2 100.0 3.60 550.0 1009.8 1713.6 100.0 4.73 550.0 1009.8 1805.4 100.0 5.90 550.0 1009.8 1907.4 100.0 7.00 550.0 1009.8 1948.2 100.0 8.08 550.0 1009.8 1958.4 100.0 9.18 550.0 1009.8 1978.8 100.0 10.26 550.0 1009.8 1999.2 100.0 11.34 550.0 1009.8 2019.6 100.0 12.44 550.0 1009.8 2029.8 100.0 13.52 550.0 1009.8 2019.6 100.0 14.60 550.0 1009.8 2019.6 100.0 15.68 550.0 1009.8 2019.6 100.0 16.78 550.0 999.6 2019.6 100.0 17.86 550.0 1009.8 2029.8 100.0 18.98 550.0 1009.8 2029.8 97.3 Grupa 000 : MARKER STAMP 0.01 82 81 170 136 119 203 73 129 151 165 0.32 85 138 199 134 124 202 73 129 151 165 0.63 88 139 252 134 131 202 73 129 151 165 0.94 90 130 255 133 138 202 73 129 151 165 1.26 93 119 255 133 145 202 73 129 151 165 1.57 96 114 255 132 151 202 73 129 151 165 1.88 99 113 255 132 156 202 73 129 151 165 2.19 102 112 255 132 162 202 73 129 151 165 2.50 104 115 255 132 167 202 73 129 151 165 2.81 107 111 255 132 171 202 73 129 151 165 3.13 110 117 255 131 175 202 73 129 151 165 3.44 112 124 255 131 179 202 73 129 151 165 3.75 115 120 255 130 181 203 73 129 151 165 4.06 118 123 255 130 185 203 73 129 151 165 4.37 120 122 255 130 187 203 73 129 151 165 4.68 123 121 255 130 189 203 73 129 151 165 4.99 125 127 255 130 189 203 73 129 151 165 5.30 128 134 255 130 190 202 73 129 151 165 5.62 130 142 255 130 190 203 73 129 151 165 5.93 133 145 255 130 191 203 73 129 151 165 6.25 135 153 255 130 191 203 73 128 151 165 6.56 138 160 255 131 191 203 73 128 151 165 6.87 140 159 255 131 192 203 73 128 151 165 7.18 143 165 255 131 193 202 73 128 151 165 7.50 145 168 255 132 194 203 73 128 151 165 7.81 147 174 255 132 195 203 73 128 151 165 8.12 150 174 255 132 196 202 73 128 151 165 8.43 152 178 255 132 196 203 73 128 151 165 8.74 154 185 255 132 197 203 73 128 151 165 9.05 157 184 255 133 198 203 73 128 151 165 9.36 159 186 255 133 198 203 73 127 151 165 9.67 161 190 255 133 198 203 73 127 151 165 9.98 164 198 255 133 199 203 73 127 151 165 10.30 166 195 255 133 199 203 73 127 151 165 10.61 168 199 255 133 199 203 73 127 151 165 10.92 170 201 255 132 199 203 73 127 151 165 11.23 172 201 255 132 199 202 73 127 151 165 11.54 175 212 255 132 199 202 73 126 151 165 11.86 177 212 255 132 199 202 73 126 151 165 12.17 179 212 255 132 199 203 73 126 151 165 12.49 181 212 255 132 199 203 73 126 151 165 12.80 183 215 255 132 199 203 73 125 151 165 13.10 186 218 255 132 199 203 73 125 151 165 13.42 188 219 255 132 197 203 73 125 151 165 13.73 190 227 255 132 198 203 73 125 151 165 14.04 192 224 255 131 198 203 73 124 151 165 14.36 194 227 255 131 198 203 73 124 151 165 Ogolnie silnik nie ma mocy i wzroslo spalanie...

A mozesz podpowiedziec za co odpowiada ostatnia pozycja w grupie 004 ?

Grupa 000 w BS TIME MARKER STAMP 0.27 41 38 0 15 100 204 80 140 142 110 0.59 41 38 0 16 100 204 80 140 142 112 0.89 41 38 0 15 100 204 80 140 142 112 1.20 41 36 0 14 100 204 80 140 142 112 1.52 41 38 0 15 100 204 80 140 142 109 1.83 41 38 0 15 100 204 80 140 142 107 2.14 41 35 0 16 100 204 80 140 142 110 2.45 41 38 0 15 100 204 80 140 142 111 2.77 41 38 0 16 100 204 80 140 142 107 3.08 41 39 0 15 100 204 80 140 142 109 3.39 41 38 0 15 100 204 80 140 142 111 3.70 41 38 0 15 100 204 80 140 142 112 4.02 41 38 0 15 100 204 80 140 142 109 4.33 41 37 0 14 100 204 80 140 142 110 4.64 41 39 0 15 100 204 80 140 142 110 4.96 41 38 0 15 100 204 80 140 142 109 5.31 41 38 0 14 100 204 80 140 142 108 5.64 41 36 0 15 100 204 80 140 142 109 5.95 41 36 0 15 100 204 80 140 142 109 6.27 41 38 0 15 100 204 80 140 142 111 6.58 41 38 0 15 100 204 80 140 142 111 6.89 41 38 0 14 100 204 80 141 142 108 7.20 41 38 0 15 100 204 80 140 142 108 7.52 41 38 0 15 100 204 80 140 142 109 7.84 41 37 0 15 100 204 80 140 142 113 8.15 41 38 0 15 100 204 80 140 142 108 8.47 41 39 0 14 100 204 80 141 142 112 8.78 41 38 0 15 100 204 80 140 142 109 9.09 41 36 0 14 100 204 80 140 142 110 9.39 41 37 0 14 100 204 80 141 142 109 9.70 41 40 0 15 100 204 80 140 142 107 10.02 41 39 0 15 100 204 80 140 142 111 10.33 41 38 0 15 100 204 80 140 142 108 10.64 41 39 0 15 100 204 80 140 142 112 10.96 41 38 0 15 100 204 80 140 142 110 11.27 41 38 0 14 100 204 80 140 142 109 11.58 41 38 0 15 100 204 80 140 142 111 11.89 41 38 0 15 100 204 80 140 142 109 12.21 41 38 0 15 100 204 80 140 142 110 12.52 41 36 0 15 100 204 80 140 142 109 12.83 41 38 0 16 100 204 80 140 142 108 13.14 41 37 0 15 100 204 80 140 142 111 13.46 41 36 0 15 100 204 80 140 142 110 13.76 41 37 0 15 100 204 80 140 142 111 14.07 41 38 0 15 100 204 80 140 142 108 14.38 41 39 0 15 100 204 80 140 142 108 14.70 41 37 0 16 100 204 80 140 142 109 15.01 41 39 0 14 100 204 80 140 142 107 15.32 41 38 0 15 100 204 80 140 142 108 15.63 41 38 0 15 100 204 80 140 142 111 15.94 41 38 0 14 100 204 80 140 142 107 16.26 41 38 0 14 100 204 80 140 142 111 16.57 41 38 0 15 100 204 80 140 142 108 16.88 41 35 0 14 100 204 80 140 142 112 17.20 41 39 0 15 100 204 80 140 142 105 17.54 41 38 0 15 100 204 80 140 142 108 17.88 41 39 0 14 100 204 80 140 142 109 18.20 41 38 0 14 100 204 80 140 142 109 18.52 41 38 0 14 100 204 80 140 142 112 18.84 41 38 0 14 100 204 80 140 142 112 19.15 41 37 0 15 100 204 80 140 142 111 19.46 41 38 0 14 100 204 80 140 142 110 19.77 41 38 0 15 100 204 80 140 142 110 20.09 41 38 0 14 100 204 80 140 142 111 20.40 41 36 0 14 100 204 80 140 142 111 20.71 41 37 0 15 100 204 80 140 142 110 21.02 41 39 0 14 100 204 80 140 142 110 21.34 41 38 0 14 100 204 80 140 142 109 21.65 41 38 0 15 100 204 80 140 142 109 21.95 41 38 0 15 100 204 80 140 142 107 22.26 41 39 0 15 100 204 80 140 142 113 22.58 41 38 0 14 100 204 80 140 142 110 22.89 41 38 0 14 100 204 80 140 142 112 23.20 41 39 0 15 100 204 80 140 142 109 23.52 41 38 0 15 100 204 80 140 142 112 23.83 41 37 0 15 100 204 80 140 142 108 24.15 41 37 0 15 100 204 80 140 142 112 24.46 41 39 0 14 100 204 80 140 142 106 24.77 41 38 0 15 100 204 80 140 142 110 25.09 41 37 0 14 100 204 80 140 142 112 25.39 41 38 0 14 100 204 80 140 142 111 25.70 41 38 0 15 100 204 80 140 142 110 26.02 41 38 0 14 100 204 80 140 142 108 26.33 41 38 0 15 100 204 80 140 142 111 26.64 41 39 0 14 100 204 80 140 142 110 26.95 41 38 0 15 100 204 80 140 142 109 27.26 41 37 0 14 100 204 80 140 142 110 27.57 41 38 0 15 100 204 80 140 142 109 27.88 41 37 0 15 100 204 80 140 142 112 28.19 41 37 0 15 100 204 80 140 142 110 28.50 41 36 0 14 100 204 80 140 142 108 28.82 41 39 0 15 100 204 80 140 142 111 29.13 40 38 0 17 100 204 80 140 142 108 29.44 41 36 0 15 100 204 80 140 142 110 29.75 41 39 0 15 100 204 80 140 142 109 30.07 41 38 0 14 100 204 80 140 142 110 30.39 41 38 0 14 100 204 80 140 142 109 30.71 41 38 0 14 100 204 80 140 142 109 31.04 41 38 0 14 100 204 80 140 142 110 31.36 41 38 0 14 100 204 80 140 142 108 31.70 41 36 0 15 100 204 80 140 142 110 32.02 41 37 0 14 100 204 80 140 142 111 32.33 41 38 0 14 100 204 80 140 142 109 32.65 41 39 0 14 100 204 80 140 142 113 32.96 41 38 0 14 100 204 80 140 142 108 33.27 41 38 0 14 100 204 80 140 142 110 33.58 41 38 0 14 100 204 80 140 142 108 33.89 41 38 0 14 100 204 80 140 142 109 34.20 41 39 0 14 100 204 80 140 142 109 34.52 41 38 0 14 100 204 80 140 142 112 34.83 41 38 0 15 100 204 80 140 142 110 35.14 41 35 0 14 100 204 80 140 142 109 35.45 41 38 0 14 100 204 80 140 142 110 35.77 41 39 0 14 100 204 80 140 142 111 36.07 41 38 0 14 100 204 80 140 142 111 36.38 41 38 0 14 100 204 80 140 142 109 36.70 41 37 0 14 100 204 80 140 142 110 37.01 41 38 0 14 100 204 79 140 142 109 37.33 41 38 0 14 100 204 79 140 142 111 37.64 41 38 0 14 100 204 80 140 142 108 37.95 41 39 0 14 100 204 80 140 142 110 38.26 41 38 0 14 100 204 79 140 142 107 38.58 41 37 0 14 100 204 80 140 142 110 38.89 41 38 0 14 100 204 79 140 142 109 39.20 41 38 0 14 100 204 80 140 142 108 39.51 41 37 0 15 100 204 80 140 142 111 39.82 41 37 0 15 100 204 79 140 142 109 40.13 41 38 0 14 100 204 79 140 142 109 40.45 41 38 0 14 100 204 79 140 142 111 40.76 41 39 0 14 100 204 80 140 142 108 41.07 41 38 0 14 100 204 79 140 142 107 41.38 41 39 0 14 100 204 80 140 142 110 41.69 41 38 0 14 100 204 79 140 142 107 42.00 41 38 0 14 100 204 80 140 142 110 42.31 41 38 0 14 100 204 79 140 142 107 42.62 41 38 0 14 100 204 79 140 142 109 42.94 41 38 0 14 100 204 79 140 142 111 43.25 41 38 0 14 100 204 79 140 142 112 43.55 41 38 0 14 100 204 79 140 142 108 43.85 41 38 0 15 100 204 79 140 142 110 44.17 41 36 0 14 100 204 79 140 142 111 44.48 41 38 0 14 100 204 79 140 142 110 44.80 41 38 0 14 100 204 79 140 142 110 45.11 41 39 0 15 100 204 79 140 142 113 45.42 41 38 0 14 100 204 79 140 142 111 45.73 41 38 0 14 100 204 79 140 142 110 46.05 41 37 0 14 100 204 79 140 142 109 46.36 41 37 0 14 100 204 79 140 142 110 46.67 41 39 0 14 100 204 79 140 142 111 46.98 41 38 0 14 100 204 79 140 142 110 47.29 41 37 0 14 100 204 79 140 142 108 47.61 41 35 0 14 100 204 79 140 142 108 47.92 41 38 0 14 100 204 79 140 142 109 48.23 41 39 0 14 100 204 79 140 142 105 48.54 41 37 0 14 100 204 79 140 142 107 48.85 41 38 0 13 100 204 79 140 142 107 49.16 41 38 0 15 100 204 79 140 142 111 49.47 41 38 0 15 100 204 79 140 142 109 49.78 41 38 0 14 100 204 79 140 142 111 50.09 41 38 0 15 100 204 79 140 142 109 50.41 41 38 0 14 100 204 79 140 142 111 50.73 41 36 0 14 100 204 79 140 142 108 51.04 41 39 0 14 100 204 79 140 142 110 51.35 41 37 0 14 100 204 79 140 142 110 51.66 41 38 0 14 100 204 79 140 142 109 51.98 41 37 0 14 100 204 79 140 142 109 52.29 41 38 0 14 100 204 79 140 142 109 52.60 41 39 0 14 100 204 79 140 142 108 52.91 41 38 0 14 100 204 79 140 142 107 53.22 41 38 0 14 100 204 79 140 142 109 53.54 41 37 0 14 100 204 79 140 142 110 53.85 41 37 0 14 100 204 79 140 142 112 54.16 41 37 0 14 100 204 79 140 142 109 54.47 41 38 0 14 100 204 79 140 142 110 54.77 41 38 0 14 100 204 79 140 142 110 55.09 41 35 0 14 100 204 79 140 142 109 55.40 41 37 0 14 100 204 79 140 142 112 55.71 41 38 0 14 100 204 79 140 142 109 56.02 41 38 0 14 100 204 79 140 142 110 56.34 41 38 0 14 100 204 79 140 142 112 56.65 41 37 0 14 100 204 79 140 142 110 56.97 41 38 0 15 100 204 79 140 142 111 57.28 41 36 0 14 100 204 79 140 142 111 57.61 41 39 0 14 100 204 79 140 142 110 57.93 41 38 0 14 100 204 79 140 142 110 58.24 41 38 0 14 100 204 79 140 142 110 58.55 41 35 0 15 100 204 79 140 142 111 58.87 41 37 0 14 100 204 79 140 142 109 59.18 41 38 0 14 100 204 79 140 142 109 59.49 41 38 0 14 100 204 79 140 142 109 59.80 41 38 0 13 100 204 79 140 142 108 60.12 41 38 0 15 100 204 79 140 142 110 60.43 41 38 0 14 100 204 79 140 142 112 60.74 41 37 0 14 100 204 79 140 142 111 61.06 41 38 0 14 100 204 79 140 142 107 61.37 41 38 0 14 100 204 79 140 142 108 61.68 41 38 0 14 100 204 79 140 142 110 61.99 41 37 0 14 100 204 79 140 142 107 62.30 41 38 0 14 100 204 79 140 142 110 62.61 41 37 0 15 100 204 79 140 142 108 62.92 41 38 0 14 100 204 79 140 142 111 63.24 41 36 0 15 100 204 79 140 142 108 63.55 41 39 0 14 100 204 79 140 142 110 63.87 41 38 0 14 100 204 79 140 142 109 64.18 41 38 0 14 100 204 79 140 142 110 64.49 41 38 0 15 100 204 79 140 142 110 64.80 41 38 0 14 100 204 79 140 142 111 65.12 41 38 0 14 100 204 79 140 142 109 65.43 41 37 0 14 100 204 79 140 142 109 65.74 41 38 0 14 100 204 79 140 142 111 66.05 41 36 0 15 100 204 79 140 142 109 66.36 41 35 0 14 100 204 79 140 142 109 66.68 41 36 0 14 100 204 79 140 142 106 66.99 41 39 0 14 100 204 79 140 142 108 67.30 41 39 0 15 100 204 79 140 142 110 67.61 41 36 0 14 100 204 79 140 142 113 67.92 41 38 0 14 100 204 79 140 142 111 68.23 41 37 0 14 100 204 79 140 142 110 68.54 41 38 0 14 100 204 79 140 142 109 68.86 41 39 0 14 100 204 79 140 142 108 69.17 41 38 0 14 100 204 79 140 142 110 69.48 41 38 0 14 100 204 79 140 142 108 69.79 41 35 0 14 100 204 79 140 142 110 70.11 41 38 0 14 100 204 79 140 142 108 70.42 41 38 0 14 100 204 79 140 142 109 70.73 41 39 0 14 100 204 79 140 142 111 71.05 41 37 0 14 100 204 79 140 142 110 71.37 41 38 0 14 100 204 79 140 142 108 71.70 41 38 0 14 100 204 79 140 142 107 72.02 41 37 0 14 100 204 79 140 142 108 72.33 41 39 0 14 100 204 79 140 142 111 72.65 41 38 0 14 100 204 79 140 142 110 72.96 41 38 0 14 100 204 79 140 142 127

Witam, Moglbym prosic o analize grupy 004 ? Szczegolnie pozycja nr 4 - znacznie odbiega od standardowych wartosci AFN. Od czego to moze byc i w zasadzie co to znaczy ? GRUPA 004 BASIC Group A: '004 Engine speed Specified start Actual start Cold Start Valve TIME 861-945 2 to -3 2 to -3 3-70 MARKER STAMP /min °BTDC % 0.01 861 Late 4.0 56.2 0.36 861 Late 4.2 54.6 0.72 861 Late 4.0 54.2 1.09 861 Late 3.7 55.8 1.45 861 Late 4.2 56.6 1.81 861 Late 4.2 55.8 2.17 861 Late 4.0 55.4 2.52 861 Late 4.0 55.8 2.88 861 Late 3.7 54.6 3.24 861 Late 3.7 55.4 3.60 861 Late 4.0 55.8 3.96 861 Late 4.0 54.2 4.32 861 Late 4.0 54.6 4.68 861 Late 4.0 56.6 5.04 861 Late 3.7 56.2 5.39 861 Late 4.0 55.8 5.75 861 Late 4.2 56.6 6.11 861 Late 4.2 55.0 6.47 861 Late 3.7 53.8 6.83 861 Late 3.7 57.4 7.19 861 Late 4.0 56.6 7.55 861 Early 3.7 53.8 7.91 861 Early 7.0 78.1 8.27 861 Early 7.5 63.4 8.63 861 Early 7.5 66.9 8.98 861 Early 7.5 63.8 9.34 861 Early 7.5 64.5 9.69 861 Early 7.9 65.3 10.05 861 Early 7.7 65.7 10.41 861 Early 7.7 66.5 10.77 861 Early 7.7 65.7 11.13 861 Early 7.7 64.9 11.49 861 Early 7.7 65.3 11.85 861 Early 7.9 63.8 12.22 861 Early 7.7 65.7 12.57 861 Early 8.1 65.3 12.93 861 Early 7.9 64.9 13.29 861 Early 7.7 64.1 13.65 861 Early 7.7 66.5 14.01 861 Early 8.1 67.3 14.37 861 Early 7.7 63.8 14.72 861 Early 7.9 64.9 15.08 861 Early 8.1 66.5 15.44 861 Early 7.9 63.8 15.80 861 Early 7.7 63.8 16.16 861 Early 7.7 66.5 16.52 861 Early 8.1 64.5 16.88 861 Early 7.9 64.9 17.24 861 Early 7.7 65.3 17.59 861 Late 7.7 65.3 17.95 861 Late 4.4 53.4 18.31 861 Late 4.2 57.0 18.66 861 Late 4.2 53.0 19.02 861 Late 4.0 56.2 19.39 861 Late 4.2 57.4 19.75 861 Late 4.0 54.6 20.11 861 Late 3.7 53.4 20.47 861 Late 3.7 56.6 20.82 861 Late 4.2 53.8 21.18 861 Late 4.0 56.2 21.54 861 Late 3.7 57.4 21.90 861 Late 4.0 56.6 22.26 861 Late 4.2 53.0 22.62 861 Late 4.0 55.4 22.97 861 Late 4.2 55.0 23.31 861 Late 4.0 56.6 23.67 861 Late 4.0 55.8 24.01 861 Late 4.0 54.6 24.37 861 Late 4.2 55.4 24.73 861 Late 3.7 57.4 25.09 861 Late 4.0 55.8 25.45 861 Late 3.7 56.6 25.82 861 Late 3.7 54.2 26.18 861 Late 4.0 57.0 26.53 861 Late 4.2 55.8 26.89 861 Late 3.7 53.4 27.25 861 Late 3.7 57.0 27.61 861 Early 4.2 56.6 27.96 861 Early 7.5 63.0 28.32 861 Early 7.3 62.6 28.68 861 Early 7.3 66.1 29.04 861 Early 7.7 63.4 29.40 861 Early 7.7 65.7 29.76 861 Early 7.7 64.1 30.12 861 Early 7.7 63.8 30.48 861 Early 7.9 64.5 30.84 861 Early 7.7 65.3 31.20 861 Early 7.9 64.1 31.56 861 Early 7.9 63.8 31.91 861 Early 7.9 64.9 32.27 861 Early 7.9 65.3 32.63 861 Early 7.9 65.7 32.99 861 Early 7.7 66.5 33.35 861 Early 8.1 63.4 33.71 861 Early 7.7 66.5 34.07 861 Early 7.7 66.5 34.43 861 Early 7.9 64.5 34.79 861 Early 8.1 64.5 35.15 861 Early 7.7 64.5 35.50 861 Early 7.9 64.9 35.86 861 Early 7.9 65.3 36.22 861 Early 7.5 63.0 36.58 861 Early 7.7 66.5 36.93 861 Early 8.1 63.8 37.29 861 Early 7.9 65.3 37.65 861 Late 7.9 66.1 38.01 861 Late 4.4 55.0 38.37 861 Late 4.0 55.8 38.73 861 Late 4.0 56.6 39.09 861 Late 4.2 54.2 39.45 861 Late 3.7 56.6 39.81 861 Late 3.7 56.2 40.17 861 Late 4.0 56.2 40.53 861 Late 3.7 52.6 40.89 861 Late 3.7 56.2 41.25 861 Late 4.2 57.0 41.60 861 Late 4.0 55.8 41.96 861 Late 4.2 56.6 42.31 861 Late 3.7 57.0 42.67 861 Late 4.0 54.6 43.03 861 Late 3.1 57.8 43.39 861 Late 3.5 58.6 43.75 861 Late 4.2 57.8 44.11 861 Late 4.0 55.8 44.47 861 Late 4.0 55.4 44.83 861 Late 4.2 54.6 45.18 861 Late 4.0 55.0 45.55 861 Late 4.2 55.8 45.91 861 Late 4.2 57.0 46.27 861 Late 4.0 54.6 46.63 861 Late 3.7 56.2 46.99 861 Late 4.0 59.0 47.34 861 Late 3.7 53.4 47.70 861 Early 3.7 55.8 48.06 861 Early 8.4 59.0 48.42 861 Early 7.0 59.0 48.78 861 Early 6.6 62.2 49.14 861 Early 7.0 66.5 49.50 861 Early 7.9 65.3 49.86 861 Early 7.5 64.1 50.21 861 Early 7.7 64.5 50.57 861 Early 7.9 66.1 50.92 861 Early 7.9 64.1 51.28 861 Early 7.9 66.5 51.64 861 Early 7.7 65.7 52.00 861 Early 7.9 67.3 52.37 861 Early 7.9 64.9 52.73 861 Early 7.7 66.1 53.09 861 Early 7.7 63.4 53.44 861 Early 7.7 66.9 53.80 861 Early 7.7 66.9 54.15 861 Early 7.9 64.5 54.51 861 Early 7.9 63.8 54.87 861 Early 7.9 66.5 55.23 861 Early 8.1 64.5 55.59 861 Early 7.7 64.5 55.95 861 Early 7.7 66.9 56.31 861 Early 7.9 66.1 56.67 861 Early 7.9 64.5 57.03 861 Early 7.7 66.1 57.39 861 Early 7.7 64.9 57.75 861 Late 7.5 67.3 58.11 861 Late 4.2 47.8 58.48 861 Late 3.7 57.4 58.86 861 Late 4.0 56.2 59.23 861 Late 4.0 55.8 59.59 861 Late 3.7 54.6 59.95 861 Late 4.0 57.0 60.31 861 Late 4.2 57.0 60.67 861 Late 4.2 55.0 61.03 861 Late 4.0 55.8 61.39 861 Late 3.7 58.2 61.74 861 Late 4.0 56.2 62.10 861 Late 3.7 54.2 62.46 861 Late 4.0 55.8 62.82 861 Late 4.2 57.0 63.18 861 Late 4.0 55.8 63.53 861 Late 3.7 58.2 63.89 861 Late 4.0 56.2 64.24 861 Late 4.2 54.2 Grupa 004 - statyczne Group A: '004 Engine speed Specified start Actual start Cold Start Valve TIME 861-945 2 to -3 2 to -3 3-70 MARKER STAMP /min °BTDC °BTDC % 0.36 861 1.3 1.5 50.2 1.46 861 1.3 1.3 45.4 2.54 861 1.3 1.1 49.4 3.62 861 1.3 1.5 46.2 4.72 861 1.3 1.3 46.6 5.80 861 1.3 1.5 45.8 6.88 861 1.3 1.1 46.6 8.00 861 1.3 1.5 48.2 9.08 861 1.3 1.5 46.2 10.16 861 1.3 1.3 46.6 11.24 861 1.3 1.3 48.2 12.32 861 1.3 1.3 47.4 13.40 861 1.3 1.3 48.2 14.48 861 1.3 1.5 46.6 15.56 861 1.3 1.3 47.0 16.64 861 1.3 1.3 49.0 17.72 861 1.3 1.5 46.6 18.80 861 1.3 1.1 47.4 19.88 861 1.3 1.8 45.8 20.96 861 1.3 1.3 46.2 22.04 861 1.3 1.3 47.8 23.12 861 1.3 1.5 45.4 24.23 861 1.3 1.3 47.4 25.30 861 1.3 1.5 48.2 26.38 861 1.3 1.3 48.6 27.48 861 1.3 1.1 48.6 28.56 861 1.3 1.5 49.4 29.64 861 1.3 1.1 46.2 30.72 861 1.3 1.5 48.6 31.82 861 1.3 1.1 46.2 32.90 861 1.3 1.1 48.6 33.98 861 1.3 1.8 45.8 35.08 861 1.3 1.1 48.6 36.16 861 1.3 1.5 48.2 37.24 861 1.3 1.3 47.4 38.36 861 1.3 1.3 47.4 39.44 861 1.3 1.5 45.4 40.54 861 1.3 1.1 47.8 41.62 861 1.3 1.5 50.6 42.70 861 1.3 1.1 46.2 43.78 861 1.3 1.3 48.2 44.86 861 1.3 1.8 49.4 45.96 861 1.3 1.1 46.6 47.06 861 1.3 1.5 46.6 48.14 861 1.3 1.1 46.2 49.21 861 1.3 1.3 47.8 50.32 861 1.3 1.5 45.8 51.39 861 1.3 1.1 48.2 52.52 861 1.3 1.5 46.2 53.62 861 1.3 1.1 49.0 54.70 861 1.3 1.5 47.0 55.80 861 1.3 1.1 46.6 56.88 861 1.3 1.1 47.4 57.96 861 1.3 1.5 48.2 59.06 861 1.3 1.1 46.6 60.13 861 1.3 1.5 48.2 U kolegow z AFNami wartosc w polu 4 jest znacznie wyzsza - w granicach 80 - tutaj w granicach 50-60... Co to moze byc ?

Witam, Jestem dosc swiezym uzytkownikiem Passata 1,9 TDI 115 km z 99 roku i mam nadzieje ze najde na forum wiele cennych informacji