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Bardzo prosze o fachowa ocene logow

Group A: '011

Engine speed Spec. intake press. Actual intake press. D.cycle MAP

TIME 2850-3150 2200-2400 2100-2600 35-80%

MARKER STAMP /min mbar %

0.00 1428 1213.8 1193.4 29.1

0.40 1470 1907.4 1193.4 19.9

0.80 1533 1968.6 1345.5 22.3

1.20 1617 2040.0 1602.9 27.1

1.60 1722 2131.8 1965.6 43.0

2.00 1848 2203.2 2281.5 55.8

2.40 1995 2264.4 2457.0 59.0

2.78 2121 2295.0 2351.7 60.2

3.18 2268 2325.6 2433.6 66.5

3.58 2436 2335.8 2421.9 65.7

3.98 2562 2346.0 2351.7 66.1

4.38 2709 2346.0 2351.7 68.1

4.77 2835 2346.0 2351.7 68.9

5.17 2961 2346.0 2351.7 70.5

5.57 3108 2346.0 2340.0 71.3

5.97 3234 2346.0 2340.0 71.3

6.37 3339 2346.0 2328.3 71.3

6.75 3444 2346.0 2328.3 72.1

7.15 3570 2346.0 2328.3 71.7

7.55 3675 2346.0 2340.0 72.5

7.95 3780 2346.0 2351.7 72.1

8.35 3885 2325.6 2351.7 74.1

8.73 4011 2315.4 2340.0 73.7

9.13 4095 2295.0 2316.6 75.3

9.53 4200 2274.6 2281.5 74.1

9.93 4305 2244.0 2258.1 74.1

10.33 4368 2203.2 2223.0 76.1

10.73 4452 2162.4 2187.9 74.9

11.13 4536 2121.6 2164.5 76.1

11.52 4599 2080.8 2117.7 76.5

oraz

Group A: '003

Engine speed MAF (specified) MAF (actual) EGR duty cycle

TIME 790-870 230-310 210-350 40-75%

STAMP /min mg/R mg/R %

0.00 1617 850.0 764.4 4.8

0.38 1743 850.0 955.5 4.8

0.78 1869 850.0 1102.5 4.8

1.18 2016 850.0 1249.5 4.8

1.58 2184 850.0 1176.0 4.8

1.98 2352 850.0 1210.3 4.8

2.36 2499 850.0 1166.2 4.8

2.76 2667 850.0 1102.5 4.8

3.15 2814 850.0 1122.1 4.8

3.55 2982 850.0 1102.5 4.8

3.95 3108 850.0 1082.9 4.8

4.35 3255 850.0 1073.1 4.8

4.75 3402 850.0 1073.1 4.8

5.13 3528 850.0 1063.3 4.8

5.53 3654 850.0 1078.0 4.8

5.93 3780 850.0 1048.6 4.8

6.33 3906 850.0 1038.8 4.8

6.73 4032 850.0 1014.3 4.8

7.12 4137 850.0 1004.5 4.8

7.52 4242 850.0 980.0 4.8

7.90 4347 850.0 970.2 4.8

8.30 4452 850.0 935.9 4.8

8.70 4557 850.0 916.3 4.8

Z gory dziekuje :-)

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turbina ok, brakuje jeszcze 008... no, no... dasz radę pocisnąc do 4600revs.. ładnie :cool:

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Dzieki bardzo zaraz jade "dorobic " blok 008 i wrzuce ponawiajac prosbe o ocene [br]Dopisany: 09 Czerwiec 2007, 22:24 _________________________________________________Nie wiem jak z paliwem ale obroty poprawic sie udalo ;-)

Group A: '008

Engine speed IQ driver's req IQ via rpm(Torq) IQ via MAF

TIME 2850-3150 65-70 47-51 47-60

STAMP /min mg/R mg/R mg/R

0.00 1512 68.6 47.8 39.8

0.40 1596 69.7 48.9 51.9

0.80 1680 69.7 50.0 57.1

1.18 1806 69.7 51.1 57.6

1.58 1932 69.7 51.9 57.6

1.98 2079 69.7 51.9 57.6

2.38 2205 69.7 51.9 57.6

2.78 2331 69.7 51.9 57.4

3.18 2478 69.7 51.9 57.4

3.58 2604 69.5 51.6 57.1

3.98 2730 68.9 51.3 56.5

4.38 2835 68.4 51.1 56.3

4.78 2961 67.8 50.8 56.0

5.18 3087 67.5 50.5 55.7

5.58 3192 67.0 50.2 55.5

5.98 3318 66.7 49.7 55.2

6.38 3423 66.2 49.1 54.9

6.78 3528 65.9 48.9 54.6

7.18 3612 65.6 48.6 54.6

7.58 3717 65.3 48.0 54.4

7.96 3801 65.1 47.8 54.1

8.36 3906 64.5 47.2 54.1

8.76 4011 64.2 46.9 53.8

9.16 4095 64.0 46.1 53.3

9.56 4179 63.4 44.7 51.9

9.95 4263 63.1 43.9 51.3

10.35 4347 62.9 42.3 50.2

10.75 4431 62.3 40.9 49.7

11.15 4494 62.0 39.5 48.9

11.55 4578 61.8 37.9 47.5

11.93 4620 61.5 36.2 44.7

12.33 4704 61.2 35.1 43.1

12.73 4767 60.9 33.5 41.5

13.13 4788 60.7 32.4 40.1

13.53 4851 60.4 29.6 39.3

13.93 4914 60.4 26.1 39.0

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Jeszcze mam prosbe do Fachowcow o odpowiedz na pytanie czy po wartosciach bloku 13 mozna okreslic prawdopodobny przebieg samochodu ? bede wdzieczny za ocene jeszcze tego bloku :rolleyes:

Monday 11 June 2007 14:55:18

038 906 019 JQ 1.9l R4 EDC G000SG 1570

Group A: '013

Cyl 1 Cyl 2 Cyl 3 Cyl 4

TIME -2.8 to +2.8 mg/H -2.8 to +2.8 mg/H -2.8 to +2.8 mg/H -2.8 to +2.8 mg/H

MARKER STAMP mg/R mg/R mg/R mg/R

0.00 -0.35 -0.64 0.33 0.64

0.40 -0.33 -0.66 0.33 0.64

0.80 -0.33 -0.66 0.33 0.64

1.20 -0.33 -0.66 0.33 0.64

1.60 -0.33 -0.66 0.33 0.61

2.00 -0.33 -0.66 0.33 0.61

2.40 -0.31 -0.66 0.33 0.59

2.80 -0.31 -0.66 0.33 0.59

3.20 -0.31 -0.66 0.33 0.56

3.60 -0.28 -0.64 0.33 0.56

4.00 -0.26 -0.64 0.33 0.56

4.38 -0.26 -0.64 0.33 0.56

4.78 -0.28 -0.64 0.31 0.54

5.18 -0.26 -0.64 0.31 0.56

5.58 -0.26 -0.64 0.31 0.56

5.98 -0.26 -0.64 0.31 0.56

6.36 -0.28 -0.64 0.31 0.56

6.77 -0.28 -0.61 0.31 0.56

7.16 -0.26 -0.61 0.31 0.56

7.56 -0.26 -0.64 0.31 0.56

7.96 -0.26 -0.64 0.31 0.54

8.35 -0.26 -0.61 0.28 0.56

8.75 -0.24 -0.61 0.28 0.56

9.15 -0.24 -0.64 0.28 0.56

9.55 -0.24 -0.64 0.28 0.56

9.95 -0.24 -0.64 0.28 0.56

10.35 -0.24 -0.64 0.26 0.59

10.75 -0.24 -0.64 0.26 0.56

11.15 -0.21 -0.64 0.26 0.56

11.55 -0.24 -0.64 0.26 0.56

11.95 -0.21 -0.64 0.26 0.56

12.35 -0.24 -0.64 0.26 0.56

12.75 -0.21 -0.59 0.24 0.56

13.15 -0.21 -0.59 0.24 0.54

13.55 -0.21 -0.59 0.24 0.54

13.95 -0.21 -0.59 0.21 0.54

14.35 -0.21 -0.59 0.21 0.54

14.75 -0.19 -0.59 0.21 0.56

15.13 -0.16 -0.59 0.21 0.56

15.53 -0.19 -0.59 0.19 0.56

15.93 -0.19 -0.61 0.21 0.56

16.33 -0.19 -0.59 0.21 0.56

16.73 -0.19 -0.61 0.21 0.54

17.11 -0.19 -0.61 0.21 0.54

17.51 -0.16 -0.59 0.21 0.52

17.91 -0.16 -0.61 0.24 0.52

18.31 -0.16 -0.59 0.21 0.52

18.71 -0.16 -0.59 0.21 0.52

19.11 -0.16 -0.59 0.21 0.52

19.51 -0.16 -0.59 0.21 0.49

19.91 -0.14 -0.59 0.21 0.49

20.31 -0.14 -0.56 0.19 0.47

20.71 -0.14 -0.54 0.19 0.45

21.11 -0.12 -0.54 0.19 0.45

21.51 -0.12 -0.54 0.16 0.45

21.91 -0.12 -0.52 0.16 0.45

22.31 -0.12 -0.52 0.14 0.47

22.71 -0.14 -0.52 0.14 0.49

23.11 -0.14 -0.52 0.14 0.49

23.51 -0.14 -0.52 0.14 0.52

23.91 -0.16 -0.52 0.14 0.52

24.31 -0.14 -0.52 0.14 0.52

24.71 -0.14 -0.52 0.14 0.52

25.11 -0.14 -0.54 0.14 0.52

25.51 -0.14 -0.54 0.14 0.52

25.91 -0.14 -0.54 0.14 0.54

26.31 -0.16 -0.54 0.14 0.54

26.71 -0.16 -0.54 0.14 0.54

27.11 -0.16 -0.54 0.14 0.54

27.51 -0.19 -0.54 0.16 0.54

27.90 -0.19 -0.54 0.14 0.54

28.30 -0.19 -0.54 0.14 0.54

28.70 -0.19 -0.52 0.14 0.56

29.10 -0.21 -0.54 0.16 0.56

29.50 -0.24 -0.52 0.16 0.59

29.88 -0.24 -0.54 0.16 0.56

30.28 -0.24 -0.56 0.19 0.56

30.68 -0.24 -0.59 0.19 0.56

31.08 -0.21 -0.59 0.19 0.56

31.48 -0.19 -0.59 0.21 0.56

31.88 -0.19 -0.59 0.21 0.56

32.28 -0.19 -0.59 0.21 0.54

32.68 -0.19 -0.59 0.21 0.52

33.08 -0.19 -0.56 0.19 0.52

33.48 -0.19 -0.54 0.19 0.52

33.88 -0.19 -0.52 0.19 0.52

34.28 -0.19 -0.52 0.16 0.52

34.68 -0.21 -0.49 0.16 0.49

35.08 -0.21 -0.47 0.16 0.49

35.48 -0.21 -0.47 0.16 0.49

35.88 -0.21 -0.49 0.16 0.49

36.28 -0.19 -0.52 0.16 0.49

36.68 -0.19 -0.52 0.16 0.52

37.08 -0.19 -0.52 0.16 0.49

37.48 -0.19 -0.52 0.16 0.49

37.88 -0.19 -0.52 0.16 0.49

38.28 -0.19 -0.52 0.16 0.49

38.66 -0.19 -0.52 0.19 0.49

39.06 -0.19 -0.49 0.16 0.49

39.46 -0.19 -0.47 0.16 0.49

39.86 -0.19 -0.47 0.16 0.49

40.26 -0.19 -0.45 0.16 0.47

40.65 -0.19 -0.47 0.16 0.47

41.05 -0.19 -0.47 0.16 0.47

41.45 -0.19 -0.49 0.16 0.47

41.85 -0.19 -0.49 0.19 0.47

42.25 -0.19 -0.47 0.16 0.47

42.63 -0.19 -0.47 0.19 0.47

43.03 -0.21 -0.47 0.19 0.45

43.43 -0.24 -0.47 0.19 0.45

43.83 -0.24 -0.45 0.21 0.45

44.23 -0.21 -0.42 0.21 0.42

44.63 -0.21 -0.42 0.24 0.42

45.03 -0.24 -0.42 0.21 0.42

45.41 -0.24 -0.42 0.21 0.42

45.81 -0.24 -0.45 0.21 0.42

46.21 -0.24 -0.45 0.21 0.42

46.61 -0.21 -0.45 0.19 0.42

47.01 -0.21 -0.42 0.19 0.45

47.40 -0.24 -0.42 0.16 0.45

47.80 -0.24 -0.42 0.16 0.45

48.20 -0.24 -0.40 0.16 0.42

48.60 -0.24 -0.38 0.16 0.42

49.00 -0.21 -0.38 0.14 0.42

49.38 -0.21 -0.38 0.14 0.42

49.78 -0.19 -0.35 0.14 0.40

50.18 -0.16 -0.33 0.14 0.31

50.58 -0.14 -0.31 0.14 0.31

50.98 -0.14 -0.31 0.14 0.28

51.38 -0.16 -0.28 0.14 0.28

51.78 -0.19 -0.28 0.14 0.31

52.18 -0.16 -0.33 0.16 0.31

52.58 -0.16 -0.33 0.16 0.33

52.98 -0.16 -0.33 0.16 0.33

53.38 -0.16 -0.33 0.12 0.33

53.78 -0.14 -0.31 0.09 0.33

54.18 -0.14 -0.31 0.12 0.33

54.58 -0.16 -0.28 0.09 0.35

54.98 -0.16 -0.31 0.09 0.35

55.38 -0.16 -0.33 0.09 0.35

55.78 -0.16 -0.33 0.12 0.38

56.18 -0.16 -0.38 0.12 0.38

56.58 -0.14 -0.42 0.14 0.38

56.98 -0.14 -0.42 0.14 0.40

57.38 -0.14 -0.40 0.12 0.40

57.78 -0.12 -0.38 0.07 0.42

58.16 -0.12 -0.40 0.05 0.42

58.57 -0.12 -0.40 0.05 0.42

58.96 -0.12 -0.40 0.07 0.42

59.36 -0.12 -0.42 0.09 0.42

59.76 -0.14 -0.42 0.12 0.42

60.15 -0.14 -0.45 0.12 0.45

60.55 -0.16 -0.47 0.14 0.45

60.95 -0.16 -0.47 0.14 0.45

61.35 -0.14 -0.45 0.14 0.45

61.75 -0.12 -0.42 0.09 0.45

62.15 -0.12 -0.42 0.07 0.45

62.55 -0.12 -0.42 0.07 0.45

62.95 -0.09 -0.40 0.07 0.42

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czy po wartosciach bloku 13 mozna okreslic prawdopodobny przebieg samochodu ? bede wdzieczny za ocene jeszcze tego bloku

niby można... Ale to tak trochę palcem po wodzie pisane...

tu masz kolegi Cubera, on ma około 220tys:

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tutaj moje, ja mam 200.000 (przy czym ja mam jakiś problem z poduszką silnika i być może ECU trochę koryguje)

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Ty masz lepiej od nas, zgadywałbym jakieś 170 tys max ?

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no ba, pewnie... zobacz jeszcze w 007 jak Ci trzyma temperaturę płynu chłodzącego (ot tak, z ciekawości).

No i napisz nam jaki masz przebieg, do porównań jak znalazł.. :cool:

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Witam ponownie i jak chodzi o przebieg to wyswietla 139 000 ale dopuszczam mysl ze cos bylo krecone ( mam ten samochod dopiero od kilku miesiecy ) , co do logow to zrobie 7 tylko nie wiem czy to proba ma byc statyczna czy dynamiczna i jak ja zrobic ?

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007 zrób w połączeniu z 011, w jeździe drogowej. Pociśnij go z jakieś 15minut (oczywiście rozgrzane musi być) cały czas logując.

Pociśnij = jak najczęściej but w podłodze, ale też daj mu kilka razy odetchnąć.

Możesz przesłac mi te logi, ja je obrobię w excelu i porobię wykresy (tak jak ja robiłem)

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Oczywisie zrobie wspolny dla 7 i 11 narazie mam 007 z dynamicznego i w pozycji drugiej statyczne tak jak sugerowal kolega Murzyn

z gory przepraszam bo troche "przydlugie " to wyszlo

dynamiczne :

Group A: '007

Fuel Temp Fuel cooling state Intake Air Temp Coolant Temp

TIME ~Amb.Temp.*C On:100%-Off:0% ~Amb.Temp.*C ~Amb.Temp.*C

STAMP ーC % ーC ーC

0.04 69.3 0.0 38.7 81.0

0.38 69.3 0.0 39.6 81.0

0.78 69.3 0.0 39.6 81.0

1.18 69.3 0.0 39.6 81.0

1.58 69.3 0.0 39.6 81.0

1.98 69.3 0.0 39.6 81.0

2.36 69.3 0.0 39.6 81.0

2.76 69.3 0.0 39.6 81.0

3.16 69.3 0.0 39.6 81.0

3.56 69.3 0.0 39.6 81.0

3.96 69.3 0.0 39.6 80.1

4.35 69.3 0.0 40.5 79.2

4.75 69.3 0.0 40.5 80.1

5.15 69.3 0.0 40.5 80.1

5.55 69.3 0.0 41.4 80.1

5.95 69.3 0.0 41.4 81.0

6.35 69.3 0.0 42.3 81.0

6.75 69.3 0.0 42.3 81.0

7.15 69.3 0.0 43.2 81.0

7.55 69.3 0.0 43.2 81.0

7.95 69.3 0.0 43.2 81.0

8.35 69.3 0.0 44.1 81.0

8.75 69.3 0.0 45.0 81.0

9.13 69.3 0.0 45.9 81.0

9.53 69.3 0.0 46.8 81.0

9.93 69.3 0.0 47.7 81.0

10.33 69.3 0.0 48.6 81.0

10.73 69.3 0.0 49.5 81.0

11.12 69.3 0.0 50.4 81.0

11.52 69.3 0.0 51.3 81.0

11.92 69.3 0.0 51.3 81.0

oraz statyczne :

Group A: '007

Fuel Temp Fuel cooling state Intake Air Temp Coolant Temp

TIME ~Amb.Temp.*C On:100%-Off:0% ~Amb.Temp.*C ~Amb.Temp.*C

STAMP ーC % ーC ーC

0.01 72.0 0.0 41.4 81.9

0.38 72.0 0.0 41.4 81.9

0.78 72.0 0.0 41.4 81.9

1.18 72.0 0.0 41.4 81.9

1.58 72.0 0.0 41.4 81.9

1.98 72.0 0.0 41.4 81.9

2.38 72.0 0.0 41.4 81.9

2.78 72.0 0.0 41.4 81.9

3.18 72.0 0.0 41.4 81.9

3.58 72.0 0.0 41.4 81.9

3.98 72.0 0.0 41.4 81.9

4.38 72.0 0.0 41.4 81.9

4.78 72.0 0.0 41.4 81.9

5.16 72.0 0.0 41.4 81.9

5.56 72.0 0.0 41.4 81.9

5.96 72.0 0.0 41.4 81.9

6.36 72.0 0.0 41.4 81.9

6.76 72.0 0.0 41.4 81.9

7.15 72.0 0.0 41.4 81.9

7.55 72.0 0.0 41.4 81.9

7.95 72.0 0.0 41.4 81.9

8.35 72.0 0.0 41.4 81.9

8.75 72.0 0.0 41.4 81.9

9.13 72.0 0.0 41.4 81.9

9.53 72.0 0.0 41.4 81.9

9.93 72.0 0.0 41.4 81.9

10.33 72.0 0.0 41.4 81.9

10.73 72.0 0.0 41.4 81.9

11.13 72.0 0.0 41.4 81.9

11.53 72.0 0.0 41.4 81.9

11.93 72.0 0.0 41.4 81.9

12.33 72.0 0.0 41.4 81.9

12.73 72.0 0.0 41.4 81.9

13.13 72.0 0.0 41.4 81.9

13.53 72.0 0.0 41.4 81.9

13.93 72.0 0.0 41.4 81.9

14.33 72.0 0.0 41.4 81.9

14.73 72.0 0.0 41.4 81.9

15.13 72.0 0.0 41.4 81.9

15.53 72.0 0.0 41.4 81.9

15.92 72.0 0.0 41.4 81.9

16.32 72.0 0.0 41.4 81.9

16.71 72.0 0.0 42.3 81.9

17.11 72.0 0.0 42.3 81.9

17.51 72.0 0.0 42.3 81.9

17.90 72.0 0.0 42.3 81.9

18.30 72.0 0.0 42.3 81.9

18.70 72.0 0.0 42.3 81.9

19.10 72.0 0.0 42.3 81.9

19.50 72.0 0.0 42.3 81.9

19.88 72.0 0.0 42.3 81.9

20.28 72.0 0.0 42.3 81.9

20.68 72.0 0.0 42.3 81.9

21.08 72.0 0.0 42.3 81.9

21.48 72.0 0.0 42.3 81.9

21.88 72.0 0.0 42.3 81.9

22.28 72.0 0.0 42.3 81.9

22.68 72.0 0.0 42.3 81.9

23.08 72.0 0.0 42.3 81.9

23.48 72.0 0.0 42.3 81.9

23.88 72.0 0.0 42.3 81.9

24.28 72.0 0.0 42.3 81.0

24.67 72.0 0.0 42.3 81.9

25.07 72.0 0.0 42.3 81.9

25.47 72.0 0.0 42.3 81.9

25.87 72.0 0.0 42.3 81.9

26.27 72.0 0.0 42.3 81.0

26.65 72.0 0.0 42.3 81.0

27.05 72.0 0.0 42.3 81.9

27.45 72.0 0.0 42.3 81.0

27.85 72.0 0.0 42.3 81.0

28.25 72.0 0.0 42.3 81.0

28.63 72.0 0.0 42.3 81.0

29.03 72.0 0.0 42.3 81.0

29.43 72.0 0.0 42.3 81.9

29.83 72.0 0.0 42.3 81.0

30.23 72.0 0.0 42.3 81.0

30.62 72.0 0.0 42.3 81.0

31.02 72.0 0.0 42.3 81.0

31.40 72.0 0.0 42.3 81.0

31.80 72.0 0.0 42.3 81.0

32.20 72.0 0.0 42.3 81.0

32.60 72.0 0.0 42.3 81.0

33.00 72.0 0.0 42.3 81.0

33.38 72.0 0.0 42.3 81.0

33.78 72.0 0.0 42.3 81.0

34.18 72.0 0.0 42.3 81.0

34.58 72.0 0.0 42.3 81.0

34.98 72.0 0.0 42.3 81.0

35.37 72.0 0.0 42.3 81.0

35.77 72.0 0.0 42.3 81.0

36.17 72.0 0.0 42.3 81.0

36.57 72.0 0.0 42.3 81.0

36.97 72.0 0.0 42.3 81.0

37.35 72.0 0.0 42.3 81.0

37.75 72.0 0.0 42.3 81.0

38.15 72.0 0.0 42.3 81.0

38.55 72.0 0.0 42.3 81.0

38.95 72.0 0.0 42.3 81.0

39.34 72.0 0.0 42.3 81.0

39.74 72.0 0.0 42.3 81.0

40.12 72.0 0.0 42.3 81.0

40.52 72.0 0.0 42.3 81.0

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w dolocie nawet nie jest goraco, natomiast kolego termostat lub G62 to masz do wymiany. Auto nie jest dogrzane. 80C to zbyt malo dla TDI

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Skanowalem Vagiem w poszukiwaniu bledow i niestety nic , porownalem temperature z czujnika i wskaznikow i jest identyczna , co chyba sugeruje termostat niestety :cry:w etce znalazlem komplet za ok 90 oiro :cry: przyznam ze nie cieszy mnie taki wydatek niestety

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Dzieki bardzo :-)[br]Dopisany: 11 Czerwiec 2007, 21:15 _________________________________________________Zakupy zrobione termostat ( w aso 87 zl ) oraz G62 ( w aso 80 zl) w sobote wymieniam obydwa elementy i zobacze jaka bedzie roznica ?

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Zakupy zrobione termostat ( w aso 87 zl ) oraz G62 ( w aso 80 zl) w sobote wymieniam obydwa elementy i zobacze jaka bedzie roznica ?

cholera ! idziesz jak burza... ;)

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wmienione wszystko czujnik, termostat, plyn aktualna temp 92,7 ! mam nadzieje ze teraz jest wszystko ok ?

dla mnie ok... Jaka temperatura była na zewnątrz ? Cisnąłeś auto ?

Ile zapłaciłeś za wymianę w Wawie ?

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za wymiane ( w zywcu ) skasowali mnie 50 zl czyli lacznie z nowym plynem 107 zl , w trakcie sprawdzania na zewnatrz 22 stopnie przy probie dynamicznej temp wzrasta chwilami przy "przeciaganiu" do 95 stopni a przy normalnej jezdzie 92,7 i trzyma sie stabilnie .

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w aso w pl wraz z oringiem to koszt kolo 80-90 pln (sprawdz w temacie o termostacie)

wymieniałem kilka dni temu: Idczak Zgierz, cena z oringiem 84zł - wymiana własnoręczna - bezcenna - strata płynu 200ml - wyniki: super

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