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[miron78]

ja mam ET 38 przy 9 calach

[alvaro]

Cuber widzieliście... Ale nie wszystkie auta na razie są tak zrobione...

[Cuber]

Cuber widzieliście... Ale nie wszystkie auta na razie są tak zrobione...

Tylko chyba nowe modele są

ja mam ET 38 przy 9 calach

Jesli WRC ma ET 32 i David_n również w feldze której wkleiłes linka to zastanawia mnie fakt dlaczego u Davida ona wychodzi na zewnątrz błotnika a u WRC nie

[alvaro]

Nie bo właśnie RS5 nie było jeszcze takie jak sprawdzam...

[Cuber]

Nie bo właśnie RS5 nie było jeszcze takie jak sprawdzam...

faktycznie

Napewno nowe rysunki są do A8 A7 A5 A4 A1

[wrclaguna]

WRC a jakie Ty masz ET Swoich letnich felg ?

ET 32 fela chyba 8,5 cala szer.

[miron78]

Cuber widzieliście... Ale nie wszystkie auta na razie są tak zrobione...

Tylko chyba nowe modele są

ja mam ET 38 przy 9 calach

Jesli WRC ma ET 32 i David_n również w feldze której wkleiłes linka to zastanawia mnie fakt dlaczego u Davida ona wychodzi na zewnątrz błotnika a u WRC nie

Czyli jeżeli Dawidowi wystaje to musi mieć 9cala a WRC 8,5 - i wszystko by się zgadzało

[wrclaguna]

U mnie przy 9 calach i mojej zawieszce to bo obcieraslo o ranty

[gregski]

Zgadza się to nie jest mmi tylko nowy zestaw, który z radia concert/symphony robi nawigacje etc. taka podróbka MMI

Podrobka mmi? Ciekawe...

Ma ustawienia dla auta itp.. Podlaczy sie do tego AMI?

[gregski]

Czy ktos rozpozna co to za MMI?

Radio Concert... Auto z 2008.

Stawiam, że to to:

http://allegro.pl/nawigacja-audi-a4-b8-dynavin-ina4-mmi-dvd-tv-gps-i1807575890.html

To jest fabryczne radio concert.

Ma ze same sterowniki tylko nie przy lewarku, a bezposrednio na paneli radia. Z opcjonalnym kolorowym wyswietlaczem na zegarach o ile dobrze pamietam. Oczywiscie wszystko oryginalne, nikt nic nie modzil. Pytanie dot. tego ktory to rodzaj MMI. Dzieki.

[wrclaguna]

Tu masz tylko radio Concert z kolorowym wyswietlaczem

[jedrekx]

dokładnie, czyli nie masz żadnego MMI

[gregski]

Super, dzieki. Jakie funkcje dochodza jak sie ma MMI?[br]Dopisany: 03 Grudzień 2011, 18:42_________________________________________________nie chce przynudzac, ale przy okazji instrukcji montazu zemexa jednak ten system nazwano MMI basic bez navi:

jakie sa roznice? bo guzikow tyle samo tylko w innym miejscu..

[wrclaguna]

Tak jest MMI Basic , MMI HIGH 2G , 3G .

[gregski]

Laguna, dzieki, tu sie wszystko wyjasnia..:

Now, finally on to the A4/A5 and the true story about the MMI in these cars!

A4/A5 comes standard, depending on market, with one of the radios: Chorus (single CD, no SD, monochrome screen), Concert (single CD, SD, 6.5" colour screen) or Symphony (integrated CD changer, SD, 6.5" colour screen). The MMI controls are placed on the front panel of the radio/CD like on A3/TT/A4 B7, although the screen is separate like on A6/A8/Q7.

The place of the MMI controls may be the most visible and notable difference, and something that has come as a nasty surprise to many A4/A5 buyers that have previously only seen pictures of A4/A5 with MMI controls below the gear lever (where they are in cars with navigation/actual MMI). Some dislike it, some prefer it, but this is a very important thing to understand: if you do not order a factory navigation system for your A4/A5, the MMI controls will be on the front of the radio/CD unit instead of below the gear lever in the center console.

Like the reader probably has guessed by now, these standard radios have more in common with the all-in-one navigation devices of A3/TT/A4 B7 than with the actual MMI in A6/A8/Q7. They may look like MMI, but they are just souped-up radios. There is no MOST data transport in the car, thus lesser decentralization of components (and expansion possibilities) and the colour screens are 6.5" instead of 7" like on the actual MMI. The user-interface is also slower compared to the actual MMI. Unlike on the A3/TT/A4 B7 navigation units, Audi doesn't even claim this system is MMI, upon starting it actually says Audi Information System on the screen (although controls and graphics are very, very similar to the actual MMI).

The actual MMI, same as in A6/Q7, is available for A4/A5 in the form of CD and DVD navigation options. Selecting CD navigation from factory includes the equivalent of MMI basic with monochrome (red on black) screen, DVD navigation the equivalent of MMI High with 7" colour screen. (CD navigation not available in all markets.) Both versions include the MOST data transport, decentralization of components, separate CD changer, MMI control buttons beneath the gear lever in the center console - this is pretty much the same system that comes standard on the A6/Q7. It looks a lot like the standard A4/A5 radios do, but technically is a completely different beast.

So, other than the already mentioned location of the MMI controls, usability performance and a half an inch difference in colour-screen size (and addition of navigation obviously), what differences are there for the car buyer between selecting a one of the radios or the navigation?

For many, not a lot.

Both systems feature extensive car settings (although they differ a bit in a few details), both have pretty graphics and the same great MMI control logic. Both allow Audi Parking System Plus to display parking sensor data on the screen. The general audience won't care if there is a MOST fiber-optic loop or an old-style CAN bus doing the talking for them, they all pretty much work the same.

There are some subtle differences, though (in addition the not so subtle location of the MMI control buttons difference) that might be significant to more demanding buyers.

First, something the radios have and the MMI/navigation do not: an SD card slot for loading MP3 music. This is a feature of Concert/Symphony radios (not on Chorus though) and not present on MMI/navigations systems (although can be solved by getting Audi Music Interface and a separate USB card reader for the car).

Second, digital audio transport on MMI/navigation cars. At first this may not sound significant, but buyers selecting the B&O audio option have reported differences between cars that have one of the radios compared to cars with the MMI/navigation. B&O comes with a different amplifier depending on whether or not the car has the MOST data transport. On cars without MMI/navigation, audio from the radio in the front is transmitted analogically (radio is in line-out mode) to the B&O amplifier in the trunk, on cars with MMI/navigation this transportation is done digitally using the MOST bus. Thus MMI/navigation cars are able to offer some additional user-options for the B&O amplifier like some extra surround processing that are not present on cars without MMI/navigation. Some users have also reported inferior sound quality on cars without MMI/navigation, which might be explained by the analogue line-out audio transport instead of going all digital over MOST.

Third, expansion. Many options for A4/A5 depend on the presence of the actual MMI. These include the SIM Access Profile phone module (although a lesser phone-prep is available for the radios as well), full speech dialogue system, television as well as Audi Parking System Advanced with its rear-view camera. Obviously this concerns both factory orders and retro-fitting options. For example, the Dension 500 requires MOST, so available currently only for MMI/navigation cars. Choosing MMI/navigation greatly expands your options in this regard. Audi Music Interface (AMI) used to require MMI/navigation also, due to being based on MOST, but model-year 2009 introduced a non-MOST (CAN) version of AMI that is also available for use with the radios. (Audi information system ETKA shows two different versions of AMI, one for the CAN radios and one for the MOST MMI/navigation.)

Fourth, Drive Select. If you spec Drive Select for your A4/A5, the presence of MMI/navigation will move the Drive Select control buttons (and ESP, sunscreen and parking system buttons) from below the gear level to below the CD changer in the dash. Also, Drive Select drivers with MMI/navigation get an extra option, Individual, that allows them to more directly define Drive Select characteristics. Without MMI/navigation, the Individual mode is not available.

Remember to order navigation for your A4/A5 if you want the "real" MMI. Also, look forward to a third-gen version of said MMI in the Q5 later this year (with much improved navigation, DVD video playback and improved card media connections) and perhaps introduction in the A4/A5 model ranges in the future as well...

Oh - one more thing, nothing to do with MMI but a source of some confusion as well - if you want the aggressive LED daytime running lights (DRLs), make sure your car configuration includes the Xenon driving lights. Only with the Xenons does the A5 come with its signature LED light strips in the front, without Xenons you'll only get a few small conventional bulbs as DRLs.

zrodelko: http://a6retrofit.tripod.com/articles/a4a5realmmi.html

[turdzi]

Panowie czy wam tez pziom oleju wariuje na MMI ? Od jakiego czasu mialem dwie kreski ponizej max. to jest jakies 3/4 lub 2/3 stanu na bagnecie.Wczoraj i dzis po jezdzie sprawdzilem i pozim podniusl sie do max. na MMI podczas gdy olej na bagnecie dalej jest w tym samym miejscu.Wie ktos o co biega , mial ktos podobny problem ?

[gregski]

Turdzi, a sprawdzasz zawsze po jezdzie z wylaczonym silnikiem?

Bo w przeciwnym wypadku to chyba raczej nie ma sensu sprawdzac?

[Wąski]

Nowy komplet lamp tył do avanta diody zapraszam na pv

[turdzi]

Turdzi, a sprawdzasz zawsze po jezdzie z wylaczonym silnikiem?

Bo w przeciwnym wypadku to chyba raczej nie ma sensu sprawdzac?

nie sprawdzam na wlaczanym

[Cuber]

Coś mi się wydaje że lampy z polifta zagoszczą u mnie na dupce

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